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**Hurley** · 01-23-07, 12:38 AM

Status of the stargazer project currently is that I have 3 2006 siblings to the star-gazers who are ravenous feeders and 3 star-gazing hatchlings in the freezer after they quit eating and became weak.

I also have plans to test cross anything I have from sunkissed lines (where the gene originated, apparently) and see who may or may not be carrying. As far as I'm concerned, anything that is from sunkissed lines is a potential carrier. It will be valuable to have known carriers in the future for the purpose of test-crossing and clearing stock as "star-gazer non-carrier". Given the recessive nature of the gene, it's going to pop up and with a vengence seeing how the sunkissed crosses are getting going everywhere.

Sir, the big sunkissed male, was obtained as a carrier for the gene. He is testing out Mattie this year for star-gazing as she's a het sunkissed. We'll see what comes out of that as this clutch is pipping now. If she proves positive, then I'll know that there's a high probability that Strong Bad is clean. If she proves negative...I won't know anything about Strong Bad, but will about her. We'll see what comes of the clutch. My plan it to test cross all sunkisseds (and kids of any proven carriers if/when they're discovered) so I know who's clean and who isn't. As a side-effect, I may get some numbers to add to the compilation and we can get this published and recognized in academia.

Anyway, with that group of star gazers...it was worth a shot, but they seem to just get so far along and peter out. I'd like to send in some star-gazers to a lab for pathology to see if we can at least identify the anatomical/storage disease/pathologic process of this trait. It'd be nice to have a pathologic process to list with the name and mode of inheritance.

I've got possible hets to prove out and I need to do the required crosses to prove that it's an inheritable trait, but I don't think there's much doubt, given the data I've collected on clutches that have produced star-gazers and pairings of those animals within a colony. Seems pretty certain. However, I need some actual numbers (star gazers:none in the clutches), so I'll be trying to collect data on that.

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Hurley The snake of a different color Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Country: My location ACR Breeder #: 1 My forum here Gender: Posts: 744 My Mood: Thanks: 55 Thanked 569 Times in 220 Posts	Status of the stargazer project currently is that I have 3 2006 siblings to the star-gazers who are ravenous feeders and 3 star-gazing hatchlings in the freezer after they quit eating and became weak. I also have plans to test cross anything I have from sunkissed lines (where the gene originated, apparently) and see who may or may not be carrying. As far as I'm concerned, anything that is from sunkissed lines is a potential carrier. It will be valuable to have known carriers in the future for the purpose of test-crossing and clearing stock as "star-gazer non-carrier". Given the recessive nature of the gene, it's going to pop up and with a vengence seeing how the sunkissed crosses are getting going everywhere. Sir, the big sunkissed male, was obtained as a carrier for the gene. He is testing out Mattie this year for star-gazing as she's a het sunkissed. We'll see what comes out of that as this clutch is pipping now. If she proves positive, then I'll know that there's a high probability that Strong Bad is clean. If she proves negative...I won't know anything about Strong Bad, but will about her. We'll see what comes of the clutch. My plan it to test cross all sunkisseds (and kids of any proven carriers if/when they're discovered) so I know who's clean and who isn't. As a side-effect, I may get some numbers to add to the compilation and we can get this published and recognized in academia. Anyway, with that group of star gazers...it was worth a shot, but they seem to just get so far along and peter out. I'd like to send in some star-gazers to a lab for pathology to see if we can at least identify the anatomical/storage disease/pathologic process of this trait. It'd be nice to have a pathologic process to list with the name and mode of inheritance. I've got possible hets to prove out and I need to do the required crosses to prove that it's an inheritable trait, but I don't think there's much doubt, given the data I've collected on clutches that have produced star-gazers and pairings of those animals within a colony. Seems pretty certain. However, I need some actual numbers (star gazers:none in the clutches), so I'll be trying to collect data on that. __________________ Connie Hurley (Email Me) American Cornsnake Registry \| CCCorns Last edited by Hurley : 01-23-07 at 02:46 AM. Reason: (grammar)
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