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The first three are siblings from a creamsicle X emoryi and are possible het hypo. They have high saddle counts, reduced saddle borders, some reduced side, head and belly pattern.

The last picture is of a yearling male resulting from a creamsicle X sunkissed breeding - strong corn appearance with bright golden tones - very different from the F1 crosses to pure emoryi - much smaller.