emoryi blood all around!

Scottsquatch · 11-07-07, 03:34 PM

I just have to say I get a kick out of the anti hybrid attitude expressed when it comes to corn emoryi crosses. As I like to say..."If its clearly labeled, its all good". Personally, I think my creamsicles and rootbeers are the coolest snakes I have. I tend to like a tad thicker bodied more robust snake (just like I like my women and my beer!) and do not care for the corns that stay long and slender. That being said, I think it would be cool to eventually introduce emoryi blood into ALL of my favorite corn morphs and then get rid of the corns all together. Wouldn't THAT just horrify all the purists out there! LOL Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there. LONG LIVE EMORYI !!!.

Scott

**Dionythicus** · 11-07-07, 04:16 PM

Long live Emoryi!! I second that motion!!

I love my hybrids (all ofthem, not just those infected with Emoryi blood, lol). But the Emoryi crosses rock!

**CrotalusCo** · 11-07-07, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Scottsquatch

I just have to say I get a kick out of the anti hybrid attitude expressed when it comes to corn emoryi crosses. As I like to say..."If its clearly labeled, its all good". Personally, I think my creamsicles and rootbeers are the coolest snakes I have. I tend to like a tad thicker bodied more robust snake (just like I like my women and my beer!) and do not care for the corns that stay long and slender. That being said, I think it would be cool to eventually introduce emoryi blood into ALL of my favorite corn morphs and then get rid of the corns all together. Wouldn't THAT just horrify all the purists out there! LOL Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there. LONG LIVE EMORYI !!!.

Scott

Pfft dont worry what the others think, as long as its labeled there is no problem. Heck just tell the hoity toity corn purists to worry about their own collection as they are turning a blind eye to their ULTRA hybrids

DemonFrog · 11-07-07, 09:45 PM

Why not start breeding for a true "pet" snake? sort of like what we did with dogs over the centuries (more i know) figure out some name for out new creation and have fun

would enable more possibilities in terms of colour, because if someone buys "XXX" type of corn they know it is a mix of many snakes and should be treated as such? I ABSOLUTLY love the yellow that emory rats have/create and wouldn't mind at all getting a hybrid or pure emoryi. Keep it up!

TandJ · 11-28-07, 09:01 PM

Pfft dont worry what the others think, as long as its labeled there is no problem. Heck just tell the hoity toity corn purists to worry about their own collection as they are turning a blind eye to their ULTRA hybrids

I am far from a corn puriest.. Heck, I am pretty far from being hoity toidy eithier... I am one that is not convinced that every Ultra came from a hybrid breeding.. From what I have seen posted and from what I have pic's of, there certainly seem to be some that look very much corn in appearance and some, that are pretty obvious..

I have my rootbeer and creamsicle group, I have my emoryi's as well, but then I have a group of crons too.. The rootbeer and creams will not be introduced into other corn projects, neithier will the emoryi.. No point for me to do that, how ever the ultramel genetics MIGHT get an introduction to Cream lines.. However that will be done with some careful planning and consideration.. As far as the corn group goes, they are as pure as I can hope ( a lot of earlier breeders used emoryi in their corn lines to get larger and more robust animals and who knows how far that really spread.. ) After all, Candy Canes originated from a Emoryi cross as well, and heck, who knows how many darker creams were sold off as normal amel corns? No one can tell for sure..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

a_god_s · 11-29-07, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Scottsquatch

I just have to say I get a kick out of the anti hybrid attitude expressed when it comes to corn emoryi crosses. As I like to say..."If its clearly labeled, its all good". LONG LIVE EMORYI !!!.

Your soooo right. I hear that hybrids aren't worth

as much as a "pure" corn but every pet store I've been in sells, the hybrid, for more! Go figure... I love my cream she is one awesome girl! I'll second that -- LONG LIVE EMORYI !!

**Dionythicus** · 11-29-07, 03:49 AM

Someone on CS.com posted their caramel emoryi/corn, calling it a "gingerbeer". I like that name for the caramels.

scotchy1ca · 11-29-07, 06:23 AM

Actually that was Mary (Corns of La Creme) who deserves the credit for that one. She is the breeder and very nice and knowledgeable lady. I'll buy again from her anyday.

Scott

**CrotalusCo** · 11-29-07, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by TandJ

I am one that is not convinced that every Ultra came from a hybrid breeding.. From what I have seen posted and from what I have pic's of, there certainly seem to be some that look very much corn in appearance and some, that are pretty obvious..
Regards.. Tim of T and J

Well I am not hear to convince you of anything but the Ultra "hypo" effect that resides on the same locus as amel came from grey Rats. Granted many of these have been bred back into corns, time and time again. If its carrying the untra gene it still has grey rat in it. 99.9% corn 0.1% grey rat is still a hybrid

This is also secretly happening in the kingsnake world. Look at all the new white sided kingsnakes hitting the market the past few years. Is this due to miraculous white side popping up in the other species? LOL I even saw some white sided bairds the other day.

Its almost laughable the stance many hold against hybrids yet the stammering of these same people to rush out and acquire the "so called" new morph. Only to conveniently look the other way or deny the true make up of a snake to stand firm with their anti-hybrid stance

I for one have many hybrids and will even try to produce some more. However I will market them for what they are, the colors and traits they carry. My Creamsicles, Frosted, Ultramels and GoldDust will all be listed in my hybrid section.

**hardwired** · 11-29-07, 03:34 PM

Well I am not hear to convince you of anything but the Ultra "hypo" effect that resides on the same locus as amel came from grey Rats. Granted many of these have been bred back into corns, time and time again. If its carrying the untra gene it still has grey rat in it. 99.9% corn 0.1% grey rat is still a hybrid

Gosh I didn't know that and I have a pair of ultra caramels. And to be fair my creamsicles got me started again in my lifelong love of corns. I try to keep some of each type as I do not want us to loose the pure genes but I am by no means a purist. I just go for what I love. I have seen some awesome crosses that I wouldn't mind getting down the road.